Subject	I dont hate the Z33, there are plenty uglier cars, and it
Posted by	LJZTT on July 14, 2006 at 4:35 PM
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In Reply To	Man,everyone on this site is a hater of the z33 posted by whitezxtt on July 14, 2006 at 03:49 PM
Message	is a good design, but it simply pales in comparison to the Z32, a design 14 yrs old in the tooth. You give nissan too much credit, they werent concerned with "keeping the Z badge alive" oh they'd love to make us all believe that, but when they were limping along with a weak product line and poor financial health with brand new ownership, they new they had a brand that would generate buzz, if nothing else. What I give them credit for is not flushing the marque completely down the toilet for a quick sale like GM has done with every cherised badge they have aside from corvette in an effort to simply make a cheap easy buck with no regards for the future or integrity of the badge (impala, camaro/firebird, SS, ZR-whatever, cadillac, the list goes on seemingly forever). As for Ford, did someone say Thunderbird? Anyway the goal of the 350 is the same as was the goal of the 240 and I think they executed it well and the G35 is a good decision also (even though I vastly prefer the G styling to the Z's--wish it was a 2seater). But IMO it was a step in the wrong direction by just starting all over with the Z's design philosophy. Look at all the old TV ads for the Z31 and Z32, all the do is trump it up as the most advanced, best performing, king of the hill, type sportscar. Now the Z33 is marketed with it driving around a city with a kid playing the Kazoo in the background. That is a serious change in direction, and marks a decided departure from a previous line of thinking and attitude towards a sportscar.
Follow Ups	2007 350Z Info - chenc544 07:13:26 07/14/06 Blah blah blah... - Kenny 08:13:48 07/14/06 word (n/m) - Madhatter10-6 09:16:13 07/14/06 h8r (n/m) - Greg (Dallas) 09:55:50 07/14/06 doesn't mean he's not right (n/m) - Guapo 10:01:10 07/14/06 this is being talked about heavily on freshalloy.com (n/m) - snack_machine 08:37:18 07/14/06 Re: 2007 350Z Info - aquariuscsm 09:26:07 07/14/06 I don't think glass headlights are legal anymore. - ZJeweler(ssm300z) 10:41:17 07/14/06 Re: I don't think glass headlights are legal anymore. - aquariuscsm 11:15:48 07/14/06 Really? I couldn't find anything to that effect on Google. - TT XTZ 12:49:27 07/14/06 I believe so. - ZJeweler(ssm300z) 13:37:01 07/14/06 Might be related more to cost reduction, weight reduction - BigTDogg (MA) 14:01:07 07/14/06 Agreed. Although the only thing I could think of that might - Dave N 14:16:10 07/14/06 What I don't understand is. - ZJeweler(ssm300z) 15:22:45 07/14/06 Modern plastics are clearer than glass - pallen 16:56:01 07/14/06 Ah, that makes sense (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:56:20 07/15/06 That`s so unfortunate - aquariuscsm 14:43:50 07/14/06 The newer ones shouldn't yellow like the older styles did - BigTDogg (MA) 14:59:41 07/14/06 Re: The newer ones shouldn't yellow like the older styles did - aquariuscsm 15:13:42 07/14/06 Interesting... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:23:17 07/14/06 I notice that alot too on various cars no older than the - LJZTT 16:44:10 07/14/06 Yeah, we've got an 05 G35, - ZJeweler(ssm300z) 17:00:01 07/14/06 Porsche's and Benz's are still using glass.... - titefit 19:02:45 07/14/06 i dunno, T-tops seems alot more "retro" than anything - LJZTT 13:52:25 07/14/06 Re: i dunno, T-tops seems alot more "retro" than anything - aquariuscsm 15:25:37 07/14/06 design and spirit are two diferent things - LJZTT 16:20:54 07/14/06 Why hasn't Nissan come out with a turbo version of the 350? - BrianTT(TPA,FL) 09:29:51 07/14/06 Yes, as well as increased warranty costs. (n/m) - Kenny 09:45:15 07/14/06 Ah never thought about that! Thanks! I am actually glad >> - BrianTT(TPA,FL) 09:55:53 07/14/06 precisely (n/m) - LJZTT 13:53:36 07/14/06 Because they don't want to. - Greg (Dallas) 09:56:23 07/14/06 The roots also aren't V6s :-/ - BradZ (FL) 11:39:12 07/14/06 Re: Because - NismoZ (Louisville) 12:31:13 07/14/06 gtr (n/m) - zboost(tx) 12:43:15 07/14/06 Exactly! What competitor would drive them to - pallen 17:28:20 07/14/06 What about the Evo and STi? (n/m) - zxtuner161 19:56:02 07/14/06 word again - Bluetorch Motorsports 09:33:52 07/14/06 Looks the same, like a Celica humping a Beetle - BigTDogg (MA) 09:54:09 07/14/06 Re: Looks the same, like a Celica humping a Beetle - aquariuscsm 10:03:21 07/14/06 G35 FTW - Rob.M (Down Shift Magazine) 10:11:22 07/14/06 I couldn't agree with you more!! (n/m) - BrianTT(TPA,FL) 10:19:27 07/14/06 Re: G35 FTW - aquariuscsm 10:22:44 07/14/06 I'm right there with you. The new 07 is one of the - longhornz32(Fort Worth) 10:58:35 07/14/06 .... - longhornz32(Fort Worth) 11:03:21 07/14/06 Damn that interior looks nice! (n/m) - BrianTT(TPA,FL) 11:10:12 07/14/06 Yeah these are concept pictures but from everything - longhornz32(Fort Worth) 11:24:24 07/14/06 Man that`s WICKED!!!!!!! - aquariuscsm 11:20:29 07/14/06 Beautiful like a big slow luxury car. (n/m) - pallen 17:30:58 07/14/06 Werd. And folks say 2+2s are ugly...*shrug* (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 11:36:55 07/14/06 "Where motorsports is more than a PASTIME" - Dave N 11:02:02 07/14/06 Ithink he means "pass" like a car passing another >> - BrianTT(TPA,FL) 11:08:14 07/14/06 I dunno - ask Rob...on both counts. (n/m) - Dave N 11:09:18 07/14/06 I already pointed that out a while ago. - Kenny 11:17:00 07/14/06 couldn't resist? (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 11:32:37 07/14/06 You know you just look at the pictures anyway. (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 11:40:36 07/14/06 I thought he was trying to be clever with a play on words. (n/m) - WayneLaR 12:31:13 07/14/06 The G35 has always looked better. - FairladyZ4U2NV 11:05:07 07/14/06 I have been enjoying my G35 for a few weeks now... - dpjax 13:21:56 07/14/06 no, enough with the "swooped" back / "peeled" back styling - LJZTT 13:58:09 07/14/06 G35 body should have been for the Z33 instead (n/m) - Zownr4life 14:28:01 07/14/06 Re: 2007 350Z Info - aquariuscsm 10:16:05 07/14/06 Re: Re: 2007 350Z Info - SireV1 12:04:19 07/14/06 Ya,it was my dream machine too,and still is! - aquariuscsm 15:39:33 07/14/06 still an economy sportscar vs the z32 supercar :-) (n/m) - Z32POWER.com 10:58:02 07/14/06 Maybe just MAYBE this is a repeat of the Z31 --> Z32 process - Dave N 10:59:57 07/14/06 that's exactly what I was thinking - ZLover4Life 11:06:01 07/14/06 Good thought, they will want a twin layed out engine - CaliguyPurdue 11:12:23 07/14/06 Nice insight, hard to have two winners in a row. - CaliguyPurdue 11:08:28 07/14/06 *shrug* I like em... (n/m) - moxie 11:04:20 07/14/06 I think making all the little changes is messing up the - upcominZ_(NOLA) 12:57:04 07/14/06 2nd. Hopefully they will thin out the heard by which ones - Zownr4life 14:36:19 07/14/06 Re: 2007 350Z Info (n/m) - jzee32tt 13:00:56 07/14/06 Re: 2007 350Z Info - snack_machine 13:17:36 07/14/06 Nissan is just doing the retro/progression thing with the - davidztt 13:34:22 07/14/06 Man,everyone on this site is a hater of the z33 - whitezxtt 15:49:43 07/14/06 There are plenty of nice cars besides the Z32. The Z33 - Guapo 15:56:04 07/14/06 I dont hate the Z33, there are plenty uglier cars, and it - LJZTT 16:35:03 07/14/06 Re: I dont hate the Z33, there are plenty uglier cars, and it - zsoom 17:04:35 07/14/06 Ok LJZTT i get your point,but you should explain that to - whitezxtt 17:53:13 07/14/06 well it isnt "everyone", and the most "vocal" ones are - LJZTT 00:03:24 07/15/06 NOT everyone.... - titefit 20:04:22 07/14/06 One more example... - titefit 20:12:44 07/14/06 Not bad - lazer(AK) 20:31:37 07/14/06
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